Neil Young - Harvest Moon [Official Music Video]

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Always loved this song, didn’t know there was a great video.

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Watch the official music video for Harvest Moon by Neil Young from the album Harvest Moon.
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Neil Young is a singer-songwriter renowned for his hits “Harvest Moon,” “Needle And The Damage Done,” “Rockin’ In The Free World,” “Change Your Mind,” “Love And War,” “Children of Destiny,” and “Mr. Soul.” He worked with artists like Bob Dylan, Pearl Jam, and Led Zeppelin — amassing billions of global streams and inducted into the “Rock and Roll Hall of Fame” twice.

Lyrics:
Come a little bit closer
Hear what I have to say
Just like children sleeping
We could dream this night away
But there’s a full moon rising
Let’s go dancing in the light
We know where the music’s playing
Let’s go out and feel the night

Because I’m still in love with you
I want to see you dance again
Because I’m still in love with you
On this harvest moon

When we were strangers
I watched you from afar
When we were lovers
I loved you with all my heart
But now it’s getting late
And the moon is climbing high
I want to celebrate
See it shining in your eye

Because I’m still in love with you
I want to see you dance again
Because I’m still in love with you
On this harvest moon

Because I’m still in love with you
I want to see you dance again
Because I’m still in love with you
On this harvest moon

#OfficialMusicVideo #NeilYoung #HarvestMoon #WeAreWarnerRecords

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 28, 2023 • 6:32:36pm

Mastodon

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 28, 2023 • 6:35:27pm

ACLU Defends Nazis’ Right To Burn Down ACLU Headquarters (The Onion, October 14, 2003)

NEW YORK—At a press conference Monday, American Civil Liberties Union officials announced that the organization will go to court to defend a neo-Nazi group’s right to burn down ACLU headquarters.

ACLU president Nadine Strossen told reporters that her organization intends to “vigorously and passionately defend” the Georgia chapter of the American Nazi Party’s First Amendment right to freely express its hatred of the ACLU by setting its New York office ablaze on Nov. 25.

“I am reminded of the words of Voltaire: ‘I may disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it,’” Strossen said. “While the ACLU vehemently disagrees with the idea of Nazis torching this building, the principle of freedom of expression must be supported in all cases. If we take away these Nazis’ right to burn down our headquarters, we take away everyone’s right to burn down our headquarters.”

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 28, 2023 • 6:40:45pm

re: #2 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I would laugh but they probably would do just that. If you can defend a violence-promoting, dangerous racist like Trump, you can defend anyone. Were they sleeping when he incited a whole insurrection?

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William Lewis  Jan 28, 2023 • 6:42:51pm

For those of you who don’t want pineapple on your pizza, try this instead…

:)

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teleskiguy  Jan 28, 2023 • 6:44:07pm

Black people are continually traumatized in the United States. Makes me sad and angry.

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teleskiguy  Jan 28, 2023 • 6:45:37pm

I’m sofa king white it’s not funny. By weird chance I also get the skiing, which is SUPER white.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 28, 2023 • 6:45:43pm

re: #3 Patricia Kayden

I would laugh but they probably would do just that. If you can defend a violence-promoting, dangerous racist like Trump, you can defend anyone. Were they sleeping when he incited a whole insurrection?

Well, when you have Bridgette Gabriel and the Libertarian Party praising your statement you know you’re on the right side of the issue. /s

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 28, 2023 • 6:47:06pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jan 28, 2023 • 6:47:49pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 28, 2023 • 6:49:57pm

Me finding uses for AI images:

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 28, 2023 • 6:54:53pm

re: #10 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Me finding uses for AI images:

What’s an “atheist argument?”

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ckkatz  Jan 28, 2023 • 6:56:24pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 28, 2023 • 7:00:23pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 28, 2023 • 7:02:19pm

Going after Mat Staver and Liberty Council.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 28, 2023 • 7:05:23pm

re: #11 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

What’s an “atheist argument?”

Don’t know, but they are bad.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 28, 2023 • 7:10:59pm

Public school in Georgia (Hemant Mehta at Only Sky)

Earlier this month, Victoria Rose Waldrip (a.k.a. Woah Vicky, “Atlanta’s new age trap queen”) visited Jonesboro High School in Georgia and preached to the girl’s basketball team. She told them to accept Jesus, promoted her church, told the girls to remain celibate until marriage, and lied about LGBTQ people.

When one girl asked her if being gay was bad, Waldrip said she couldn’t answer the question because she’s not God. She then added there was no such thing as a gay preacher (which is a lie), and said people become gay as a result of getting “touched on” (which is also a lie), and said being gay is like murdering people because they’re both sins (which even most Christians would say is a lie because they don’t think being gay is a sin). And then she praised Jeffrey Dahmer for supposedly discovering God in prison.

You better believe there’s video of it. (The anti-gay stuff begins around the 13:20 mark.)
YouTube video

It raises all kinds of questions for the school: What the hell was she doing there? Who invited her? Why would anyone think this was a good idea?! That’s what @capn_cut_throat and @deconversiontherapy wanted to know when their videos about the matter began picking up steam on TikTok.

Keep in mind that this wasn’t a voluntary event where students were told what they’d hear in advance. In fact, some of the girls later “expressed their outrage” online.

*more*

Why did a high school let controversial influencer Woah Vicky preach to kids? (January 26, 2023)

Video shows media personality Woah Vicky lying to kids about LGBTQ people, while urging them to accept Jesus. Several students complained to the Freedom from Religion Foundation, which is now engaged with the school to get to the bottom of this.

It appears this woman was invited by someone who is not associated with the school.

It turns out we do know who’s responsible for this: Frances Miller, a “digital creator” who works as a “character coach” for the team and promotes them on social media. She’s seen in the background of the video. (One source told me that Miller has no official connection with the district.)

Miller bragged about the proselytizing as soon as it happened:

If, in fact, Miller’s role is unofficial, then her access to students—and how she used that opening to get her friend to push Jesus on them—is especially troubling.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 28, 2023 • 7:16:02pm

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William Lewis  Jan 28, 2023 • 7:16:53pm

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 28, 2023 • 7:19:04pm

Mastodon

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 28, 2023 • 7:19:39pm

Still trying to make the most of AI images:

I do like that image.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 28, 2023 • 7:20:00pm

re: #17 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

This is the same woman who gave the “hate Teh Geyhs for Jesus” speech in a Georgia public school. Caution for horrible music.

(2:28)

Woah Vicky - Woah Vicky

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 28, 2023 • 7:21:05pm

re: #20 Patricia Kayden

Whatever you just posted generated a warning from McAfee.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 28, 2023 • 7:21:07pm

Some Mastodon sites apparently block embedded posts. Oh well. NASA also does this.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 28, 2023 • 7:22:55pm

Mastodon

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 28, 2023 • 7:25:09pm

re: #23 The Pie Overlord!

Okay. Sorry about that. It’s a link to Salon. The link works for me.

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retired cynic  Jan 28, 2023 • 7:27:47pm

re: #22 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

This is the same woman who gave the “hate Teh Geyhs for Jesus” speech in a Georgia public school. Caution for horrible music.

(2:28)

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Are those teeth, or horrible metal fangs???

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jaunte  Jan 28, 2023 • 7:27:57pm
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DodgerFan1988  Jan 28, 2023 • 7:31:23pm
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darthstar  Jan 28, 2023 • 7:33:00pm

Mastodon

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 28, 2023 • 7:33:32pm
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retired cynic  Jan 28, 2023 • 7:34:13pm

re: #30 darthstar

I’m with Eartha.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 28, 2023 • 7:37:34pm

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Captain Ron  Jan 28, 2023 • 7:38:04pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jan 28, 2023 • 7:48:02pm

Mastodon

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Teukka  Jan 28, 2023 • 7:50:48pm

Russian Propaganda 101.

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Joe Bacon  Jan 28, 2023 • 7:54:13pm

re: #22 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

This is the same woman who gave the “hate Teh Geyhs for Jesus” speech in a Georgia public school. Caution for horrible music.

(2:28)

[Embedded content]

Video

Look$ like $he’$ a real full blown Pulpit Pimp Pu$hing the Pro$perity Go$pel!

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William Lewis  Jan 28, 2023 • 7:54:31pm

Got a whiney little shit here tonight who doesn’t want to accept that the hours on the pool & hot tub are 8AM to 11PM. I gave him my usual bs that it was for insurance which he didn’t believe but I don’t care. It closes at 11 and doesn’t open again till 8. And if he gives us any guff at closing time, I’ll be happy to ask him to leave without a refund.

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Joe Bacon  Jan 28, 2023 • 7:56:35pm

re: #29 DodgerFan1988

Just remember that Dimwit D’Stupid is the same propagandist who slandered Obama’s mother and of course he did not stop there.

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jaunte  Jan 28, 2023 • 8:14:28pm

google.com

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Belafon  Jan 28, 2023 • 8:27:16pm
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Joe Bacon  Jan 28, 2023 • 8:29:40pm

Fascinating. The actual voice of Buffalo Bill Cody!

The actual voice of Buffalo Bill Cody recorded in 1898!

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Belafon  Jan 28, 2023 • 8:30:39pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jan 28, 2023 • 8:44:09pm

Mastodon

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 28, 2023 • 9:01:55pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 28, 2023 • 9:06:50pm

Today’s Libertarian Party hot take.

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jaunte  Jan 28, 2023 • 9:13:08pm

re: #46 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Libertarians peak in 10th grade, and it’s all downhill from there.

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gwangung  Jan 28, 2023 • 9:20:14pm

re: #46 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Once again, projection.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jan 28, 2023 • 9:27:04pm
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Joe Bacon  Jan 28, 2023 • 9:27:44pm

re: #46 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Today’s Libertarian Party hot take.

Memories of the Young Libertarian Alliance at Pitt in the mid 70s calling for the state to stop funding all schools and universities. Nevermind that the head of the YLA was fully funding her tuition with Pell Grants…

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Targetpractice  Jan 28, 2023 • 9:32:38pm

re: #7 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Well, when you have Bridgette Gabriel and the Libertarian Party praising your statement you know you’re on the right side of the issue. /s

[Embedded content]

They’re not even bothering trying to make a “freeze peach” argument because even they know that that’s not how the law works, so they’re going with the “He’s a celebrity, the regular rules don’t apply to him!” BS that companies use to cover for monetizing everything from bigotry to death threats.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 28, 2023 • 9:52:49pm

Military Times, October 28, 2022

Why Comic Sans should be the official Army font

The U.S. Army has a regulation for everything — braid styles, hands in pockets, colors and types of acceptable pens. The list even includes a font specification for professional correspondence — Arial, size 12.

According to Army Regulation 25-50, section 1-19 of “Preparing and Managing Correspondence,” which specifies type fonts and sizes, the cliché sans serif lettering is preferred, which, if you know anything about the Army, essentially means it’s mandatory.

“Use type fonts and sizes that make the correspondence easy to read and understand,” the regulation reads. “Preferred type font is Arial. Unusual type styles, such as Script, will not be used in official correspondence.”

But unusual beauty is in the eye of the beholder. And Comic Sans, neither script nor odd, should be in the running for the official Army font.

It is simplistic, nostalgic, aesthetically pleasing and easily enjoyed by everyone and anyone with even a smidge of reading skill. Crayon eaters can attest, it is the best.

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Targetpractice  Jan 28, 2023 • 10:01:31pm

re: #43 Belafon

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An “anti-crime” unit when one of the most common lines we hear when it’s learned that the cops allowed a crime to continue until someone was injured or killed is “Cops aren’t paid to prevent crimes, they’re there to arrest the criminals!” Probably because police departments have a history of interpreting “anti-crime” as “arrest anybody who looks at you funny and come up with the charges later.”

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sagehen  Jan 28, 2023 • 10:02:22pm

Classified Press Conference Cold Open - SNL

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Belafon  Jan 28, 2023 • 10:20:03pm

When they say the video offers no proof:

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Captain Ron  Jan 28, 2023 • 10:21:17pm

Did you ever consider the view of the moon from New Zealand is upside down to our view?

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Captain Ron  Jan 28, 2023 • 10:26:18pm

… and it moves from right to left in the night sky.

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darthstar  Jan 28, 2023 • 10:30:44pm

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darthstar  Jan 28, 2023 • 10:33:18pm

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 28, 2023 • 10:39:09pm

re: #57 Captain Ron

Did you ever consider the view of the moon from New Zealand is upside down to our view?

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darthstar  Jan 28, 2023 • 10:48:52pm

Okay…time to sleep.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 28, 2023 • 10:54:47pm

earthquake.usgs.gov
M 5.9 - 14 km SSW of Khowy, Iran

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 28, 2023 • 11:01:17pm

I’m finding that Twitter is increasingly messing up Youtube embeds, claiming “Nothing to see here” when indeed if one follows the link there really is a Youtube video at that link.

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Targetpractice  Jan 28, 2023 • 11:12:38pm

re: #56 Belafon

When they say the video offers no proof:

[Embedded content]

To people who believe that thousands of BLM/Antifa agents dressed up in MAGA cosplay and stormed the Capital Building to discredit all Trump supporters, the idea that this guy was Paul Pelosi’s secret gay lover who attacked him in a fit of rage is not going to die down even with his confession.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 28, 2023 • 11:13:48pm
ATLANTA - For the second day in a row, a group of Georgians gathered in Downtown Atlanta’s Centennial Olympic Park to protest the murder of Tyre Nichols. The 29-year-old man was beaten to near death by five Memphis police officers. With two peaceful demonstrations under their belt, some protestors have expressed a concern against the presence of Georgia’s National Guard.

“It’s important to demonstrate solidarity and demand justice for Tyre Nichols and all victims of police violence,” said Natalie Villasana.

Villasana is a part of the group that organized the two protests. The organization said more people would have come out if it were not for Governor Brian Kemp declaring a State of Emergency and calling up the National Guard.

(more)
fox5atlanta.com

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Captain Ron  Jan 28, 2023 • 11:17:55pm

re: #63 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Iran is going through some things.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 28, 2023 • 11:20:24pm

re: #67 Captain Ron

Iran is going through some things.

A boobquake?

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Captain Ron  Jan 28, 2023 • 11:22:47pm

re: #68 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

They got bombed last night, too. Then there are the protests.

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Captain Ron  Jan 28, 2023 • 11:25:28pm
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Targetpractice  Jan 28, 2023 • 11:46:43pm

re: #38 William Lewis

Got a whiney little shit here tonight who doesn’t want to accept that the hours on the pool & hot tub are 8AM to 11PM. I gave him my usual bs that it was for insurance which he didn’t believe but I don’t care. It closes at 11 and doesn’t open again till 8. And if he gives us any guff at closing time, I’ll be happy to ask him to leave without a refund.

Yeah, I’ve seen this song and dance enough times to know that he’s gonna slag the hotel in his review almost immediately after he leaves. Odds are he’ll just accuse you of being “rude” and whine about how the policy is “unfair” because his little entitled ass thinks his rental fee means he should have access to all amenities 24/7. But don’t put it past him to go totally loony tunes if he thinks it’ll get him some sort of compensation while customer service “investigates” his claims.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 28, 2023 • 11:48:58pm

NSFW commentary at Reddit’s r/ReligiousFruitcake over this one.

Have you tried FIVE rosaries though? That ought oughta do it.

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DodgerFan1988  Jan 28, 2023 • 11:56:47pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 29, 2023 • 12:09:45am

A man makes a woman’s labour pains all about him at Reddit’s r/NotHowGirlsWork (cringe comment)

I mean labor is so easy for women right? Just carrying a baby inside no hard work🤣

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Captain Ron  Jan 29, 2023 • 12:10:04am

Counterfactual computation, oh fuck me.

YouTube

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 29, 2023 • 12:10:53am

.


Bach - Cello Suite No. 4 in E flat Major, BWV 1010 (reference record.: Maurice Gendron / REMASTERED)



..

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(((Archangel1)))  Jan 29, 2023 • 12:16:50am
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Targetpractice  Jan 29, 2023 • 12:33:15am

re: #77 (((Archangel1)))

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The sort of morons who signed “BAN DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE!” petitions in school.

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John Hughes  Jan 29, 2023 • 12:33:39am

re: #53 Targetpractice

Peelian principles #9

To recognise always that the test of police efficiency is the absence of crime and disorder, and not the visible evidence of police action in dealing with them.

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Targetpractice  Jan 29, 2023 • 12:41:29am

re: #79 John Hughes

Peelian principles #9

As to opposed to our system of law enforcement in America, where decades of demanding hard numbers as evidence of police efficiency has bred a culture that puts number arrests over other considerations, so that using unnecessary force to drag in a man for selling loosie cigarettes is a totally valid use of police resources because it contributes to that month’s quotas.

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Captain Ron  Jan 29, 2023 • 12:42:57am

The Delayed Choice Quantum Eraser, Debunked

Quantum physics makes my mind go boom.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 29, 2023 • 1:05:08am

I’m off to bed. Catch y’all later.

…WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY IN EFFECT UNTIL 11 AM MST MONDAY…

* WHAT…Snow. Total snowfall accumulations of 4 to 8 inches
possible over multiple waves.

* WHERE…In Wyoming, Laramie and Goshen Counties including
Cheyenne, Pine Bluffs, and Torrington. In Nebraska, Banner,
Scotts Bluff, and Morrill counties including Scottsbluff,
Alliance, and Bridgeport.

* WHEN…Until 11 AM MST Monday. A lull in snowfall is expected
overnight tonight, with snow increasing again on Sunday
afternoon and continuing through Monday morning.

* IMPACTS…Hazardous travel conditions due to icy, snow covered
roads and significantly reduced visibilities in falling and
blowing snow.

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Captain Ron  Jan 29, 2023 • 1:16:31am

Our 10 day forecast went from cool and sunny to cold and lots of chances for rain overnight.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 29, 2023 • 1:18:07am

re: #75 Captain Ron

It’s a phenomenon of reality that is known only through modern physics.

And only lately (the past few decades) have experiments that can make for demonstrations to the layman become possible.

See here:

Entangled photons make a picture from a paradox

The essential nature of reality is that said reality is best described as waves that can be entangled, or not. This is something completely foreign to human understanding before the 20th century.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 29, 2023 • 1:19:07am

re: #83 Captain Ron

Yup. A week ago the forecast was for cool and dry down here, now it’s going to be cold and wet for Sunday and Monday, and cold and dry for a few days after that.

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John Hughes  Jan 29, 2023 • 1:27:44am

re: #48 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Imagine the guys at IA — “hey, this guy called to say the Scorpion Unit is out of control”. “Well, duh”.

When you call something the “Scorpion Unit” you’re telling its members exactly how you want them to behave.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 29, 2023 • 2:31:04am

re: #11 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

What’s an “atheist argument?”

“Anything other than your local pastor’s literal interpretation of his Bible might be valid!”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 29, 2023 • 2:39:36am

re: #49 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

“I don’t care about NBA basketball, it’s full of woke spoiled athletes who don’t appreciate America.”

I don’t care about NBA basketball, it’s full of woke spoiled uppity black athletes who don’t appreciate America just shut up and entertain us.

Translated

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 29, 2023 • 2:39:46am

Powerball jackpot is creeping up into real money territory again.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 29, 2023 • 2:43:01am

Russian presidential Mi-8 helicopter crashes in Moscow (AeroTime, January 27, 2023)

The Mil Mi-8 helicopter belonging to the Russian Special Flight Detachment ‘Rossiya’ has crashed in Moscow’s Vnukovo international airport (VKO) on January 27, 2023.

According to Russian media, the helicopter crashed during landing, resulting in several casualties.

The Special Flight Detachment ‘Rossiya’ is a company that operates a fleet of VIP aircraft used for transporting Russian government officials, including the country’s president Vladimir Putin.

According to Russian news agency Interfax, the helicopter struck the ground with its blades and tail while landing.

Interfax also quotes emergency services as saying that the accident resulted in casualties. However, the airport authorities have denied that anybody was harmed in the crash, Interfax added.

Russian Telegram channel Mash shared a photo of what it claims to be the aftermath of the crash. In it, a Mi-8 helicopter in the livery of ‘Rossiya’ can be seen. The helicopter’s tail rotor blades appear to have been sheared off.

In Mash’s photo, the tail number of the helicopter is blurred away. Data from adsbexchange.com shows only three AgustaWestland AW139 helicopters of ‘Rossiya’ conducting flights around VKO between the morning and afternoon of January 27, meaning that the Mi-8 in question most likely flew with its transponder turned off.

(more)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 29, 2023 • 2:51:36am

re: #90 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Russian presidential Mi-8 helicopter crashes in Moscow (AeroTime, January 27, 2023)

(more)

If it is sabotage, that’s bad enough.

If this represents the level of maintenance/operation of critical military vehicles, that’s worse.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 29, 2023 • 3:18:29am

Canadian police chiefs speak out on death of Black man beaten by U.S. officers (CTV News)

Canadian police chiefs condemned on Friday the death of a Black man who was savagely beaten by police during a traffic stop in the United States, saying the officers involved must be held accountable.

The condemnation of the actions that led to Tyre Nichols’ death came as authorities in Memphis, Tenn., released a video of what happened.

The footage shows officers holding Nichols down and striking him repeatedly as he screamed for his mother.

After the beating, officers milled about for several minutes while Nichols lay propped up against a car, then slumped onto the street.

(more)

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 29, 2023 • 3:37:13am

It is another day ending in -y.

Click to Reveal

Wordle 589 3/6

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jan 29, 2023 • 3:40:44am

Morning Lizards from the slightly cold 19F/-7C Twin Falls, Id. We also had a bit of snow last night.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 29, 2023 • 4:11:13am

Three months after the election, Kari Lake is still pretending she is governor of Arizona.

She’s also taking her soft face filters on the road.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 29, 2023 • 4:22:12am

Break out your parents’ DirecTV remote controls to set parental locks on this.

Newsmax replaced by another right-wing channel on DirecTV (Yahoo!, January 27, 2023)

That escalated quickly.

DirecTV announced Thursday it will replace Newsmax with another right-wing TV station. Word of the satellite service provider’s new partnership comes after Newsmax — which was dropped from DirecTV’s lineup at the stroke of midnight Wednesday — whined it was a victim of “political discrimination and censorship.”

“DIRECTV will launch conservative opinion and commentary network The First across all three of its video services … very soon,” DirecTV said in a statement.

Fox News castaway Bill O’Reilly and Donald Trump sycophant Liz Wheeler, formerly of OAN, lead The First’s lineup of talent, which also includes former Breitbart editor Dana Loesch. Adding insult to injury, The Daily Beast reports The First will take over the very channel formerly occupied by Newsmax.

(more)

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 29, 2023 • 4:24:49am

re: #96 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Break out your parents’ DirecTV remote controls to set parental locks on this.

Newsmax replaced by another right-wing channel on DirecTV (Yahoo!, January 27, 2023)

(more)

Why? What’s gained by carrying and amplifying right-wing disinformation? I guess they’re afraid of losing out on wingnut cash, because “doing the right thing” doesn’t pay.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 29, 2023 • 4:25:31am

Low power mode on the Xbox is apparently FOX News Channel’s latest outrage. (13:41)

The Xbox Made Fox News Mad…

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 29, 2023 • 4:28:21am

re: #98 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Low power mode on the Xbox is apparently FOX News Channel’s latest outrage. (13:41)

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Yep, I’ve been seeing this for a couple of days now on my feeds due to being gaming-related. Because reducing power consumption is a bad thing, apparently, and it’s the good, right, and proper Christian thing to do to waste as much as possible, in the name of White American Jesus.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 29, 2023 • 4:30:32am

re: #99 Dopamine Fish

Yep, I’ve been seeing this for a couple of days now on my feeds due to being gaming-related. Because reducing power consumption is a bad thing, apparently, and it’s the good, right, and proper Christian thing to do to waste as much as possible, in the name of White American Jesus.

As the video notes, the Xbox has had a low power selection for thirteen years.

Has the outrage over M&Ms worn out?

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Jan 29, 2023 • 4:32:13am

re: #96 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I am 9000% certain that there’s a Batman comic in which all the lunatics bust out of Arkham and start their own TV station. If there isn’t, there should be.

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Dopamine Fish  Jan 29, 2023 • 4:35:43am

re: #100 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

As the video notes, the Xbox has had a low power selection for thirteen years.

Has the outrage over M&Ms worn out?

I’m assuming that they’re changing the low power setting to be the default, and that’s what the outrage is about. Wingnuts can’t stay on the same grift too long; eventually it sounds ridiculous even to the true believers, if they let it cook for too long. The key to wingnut grift is to always be jumping between outrages, even if it means reusing old grievances.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 29, 2023 • 4:39:14am

A double whiff and a par. Not bad for an early Sunday.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 29, 2023 • 4:43:37am

How Barr’s Quest to Find Flaws in the Russia Inquiry Unraveled (New York Times, January 26, 2023)

TL;DR, Durham’s investigation veered into investigating crimes by Donald Trump. That couldn’t be allowed.

Mr. Barr and Mr. Durham never disclosed that their inquiry expanded in the fall of 2019, based on a tip from Italian officials, to include a criminal investigation into suspicious financial dealings related to Mr. Trump. The specifics of the tip and how they handled the investigation remain unclear, but Mr. Durham brought no charges over it.

Mr. Durham used Russian intelligence memos — suspected by other U.S. officials of containing disinformation — to gain access to emails of an aide to George Soros, the financier and philanthropist who is a favorite target of the American right and Russian state media. Mr. Durham used grand jury powers to keep pursuing the emails even after a judge twice rejected his request for access to them. The emails yielded no evidence that Mr. Durham has cited in any case he pursued.

There were deeper internal fractures on the Durham team than previously known. The publicly unexplained resignation in 2020 of his No. 2 and longtime aide, Nora R. Dannehy, was the culmination of a series of disputes between them over prosecutorial ethics. A year later, two more prosecutors strongly objected to plans to indict a lawyer with ties to Hillary Clinton’s 2016 campaign based on evidence they warned was too flimsy, and one left the team in protest of Mr. Durham’s decision to proceed anyway. (A jury swiftly acquitted the lawyer.)

Now, as Mr. Durham works on a final report, the interviews by The Times provide new details of how he and Mr. Barr sought to recast the scrutiny of the 2016 Trump campaign’s myriad if murky links to Russia as unjustified and itself a crime.

(more)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 29, 2023 • 4:45:16am

re: #102 Dopamine Fish

I’m assuming that they’re changing the low power setting to be the default, and that’s what the outrage is about. Wingnuts can’t stay on the same grift too long; eventually it sounds ridiculous even to the true believers, if they let it cook for too long. The key to wingnut grift is to always be jumping between outrages, even if it means reusing old grievances.

Not according to the video. You still have to go into Xbox’s settings to change it to low power saving mode.

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Jan 29, 2023 • 4:52:06am

Do these Youtube “shorts” embed properly?

youtube.com

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 29, 2023 • 4:52:18am
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Jan 29, 2023 • 4:52:25am

re: #106 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

No, they don’t! Cool.

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Jan 29, 2023 • 4:57:07am

re: #107 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

As a life-long Texas guy who doesn’t really think Texas is all that spiffy when you really consider it, I want to apologize to the rest of the planet for the existence of Ted Cruz. He’s like the asshole kid that nobody likes, but he is at your skating rink party because your mom works in the same office with his mom. Their relationship is lukewarm at best, but ya know, POLITICS.

I’m sorry my state hasn’t been able to oust this walking hemorrhoid, and frankly probably never will.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 29, 2023 • 5:01:31am

re: #109 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

As a life-long Texas guy who doesn’t really think Texas is all that spiffy when you really consider it, I want to apologize to the rest of the planet for the existence of Ted Cruz. He’s like the asshole kid that nobody likes, but he is at your skating rink party because your mom works in the same office with his mom. Their relationship is lukewarm at best, but ya know, POLITICS.

I’m sorry my state hasn’t been able to oust this walking hemorrhoid, and frankly probably never will.

Last year at the NRA convention Sen. Cruz was blaming video games for gun violence.

Mr. “I’ve only introduced one bill the entire time I’ve been in the Senate” has to earn his pay somehow, so spinning up conservative outrage is apparently his job.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 29, 2023 • 5:13:38am

This morning for the wife and I, I made ham egg and cheese bagels. I love this MyMini egg cooker.

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Dangerman  Jan 29, 2023 • 5:22:29am

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TarHellion  Jan 29, 2023 • 5:42:49am

Made another good second guess today to get into birbie range. Just gonna chill around the house and tune in to the CTE Conference title games. Gonna go with Kansas City and Philly. The Chefs are due to beat Burrow, while Philly should be able to do some things on defense to make Purdy’s day ugly. A great day/evening to all the Lizards!

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TarHellion  Jan 29, 2023 • 5:44:50am

re: #107 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

My Playstation 4 defaults into power saving mode, as I recall

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Dangerman  Jan 29, 2023 • 5:48:00am

Pig

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 29, 2023 • 5:49:11am

re: #109 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

“He’s like the asshole kid that nobody likes”

He keeps winning elections so he is liked. Liked enough to be re-elected every time he runs.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 29, 2023 • 5:51:25am

re: #113 TarHellion

Made another good second guess today to get into birbie range. Just gonna chill around the house and tune in to the CTE Conference title games. Gonna go with Kansas City and Philly. The Chefs are due to beat Burrow, while Philly should be able to do some things on defense to make Purdy’s day ugly. A great day/evening to all the Lizards!

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Lucky guess for the birbie!

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 29, 2023 • 6:03:24am

What’s large gray and doesn’t matter?

Irrelephant

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DodgerFan1988  Jan 29, 2023 • 6:04:41am
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jeffreyw  Jan 29, 2023 • 6:19:16am

Split Pea Soup

Good morning!

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Teukka  Jan 29, 2023 • 6:22:01am

re: #120 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

File under #YouHadOneJob….

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Thanos  Jan 29, 2023 • 6:25:30am

Good morning all, the local albino squirrel escaped before I could get the telephoto lens out for a good shot:

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Dave In Austin  Jan 29, 2023 • 6:31:09am

re: #122 Thanos

Good morning all, the local albino squirrel escaped before I could get the telephoto lens out for a good shot:

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Leucitic or true albino (pink eyes)?

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Thanos  Jan 29, 2023 • 6:38:36am

re: #123 Dave In Austin

See the brown tail? It’s most likely a merle, not an albino, I didn’t get a good look at the eyes.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 29, 2023 • 6:43:36am

re: #99 Dopamine Fish

Yep, I’ve been seeing this for a couple of days now on my feeds due to being gaming-related. Because reducing power consumption is a bad thing, apparently, and it’s the good, right, and proper Christian thing to do to waste as much as possible, in the name of White American Jesus.

We measure wealth and prosperity in terms of how many resources we consume, not in terms of how efficiently we use them.

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ckkatz  Jan 29, 2023 • 6:52:44am
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Crush White Nationalism  Jan 29, 2023 • 6:52:59am

re: #107 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jan 29, 2023 • 6:53:31am

re: #125 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We measure wealth and prosperity in terms of how many resources we consume, not in terms of how efficiently we use them.

I’m waiting for the nuts to start advocating potlatch as a way to own the libs. Or at least the part that involves purposefully destroying valuable items as a method of proclaiming “superiority”. They would probably combine it with book burning and blaming video games* for causing all non-condoned violence.

* - Ritual destruction of Playstations most likely.

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ckkatz  Jan 29, 2023 • 6:55:30am

re: #124 Thanos

See the brown tail? It’s most likely a merle, not an albino, I didn’t get a good look at the eyes.

I’m thinking that a white colored coat on a prey animal in the forest may not be a really great adaption. Particularly as predatory birds continue to make a comeback in much of the US.

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ckkatz  Jan 29, 2023 • 6:59:32am

re: #128 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

I’m waiting for the nuts to start advocating potlatch as a way to own the libs. Or at least the part that involves purposefully destroying valuable items as a method of proclaiming “superiority”. They would probably combine it with book burning and blaming video games* for causing all non-condoned violence.

* - Ritual destruction of Playstations most likely.

Maybe throw in some coal rolling and ownership of large pickups.

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Joe Bacon  Jan 29, 2023 • 7:01:49am

Gym Neighbors just needs to tell the truth that he got off on seeing those thugs beat that kid.

Jim Jordan shrugs off Tyre Nichols’ death because there’s no law ‘that can stop that evil’

Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH) suggested that he would not take any action after the death of Tyre Nichols because he said that there is no “law that can stop that evil.”

And of course he gets away with saying that on Press the Meat.

Jim Jordan: No new laws after Tyre Nichols’ death

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 29, 2023 • 7:04:29am

Mastodon

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Dangerman  Jan 29, 2023 • 7:07:06am
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Dangerman  Jan 29, 2023 • 7:09:18am

re: #116 Patricia Kayden

“He’s like the asshole kid that nobody likes”

He keeps winning elections so he is liked. Liked enough to be re-elected every time he runs.

I was following the thread.
Then read this and forgot if asshole referred to Cruz or trump

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darthstar  Jan 29, 2023 • 7:09:52am

Mastodon

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jan 29, 2023 • 7:10:52am

re: #111 Eventual Carrion

This morning for the wife and I, I made ham egg and cheese bagels. I love this MyMini egg cooker.

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I love mine as well. It’s great when I want to make up a personal batch of Deviled Eggs.

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ckkatz  Jan 29, 2023 • 7:16:42am

re: #126 ckkatz

The implications of drone strikes like these are something to consider.

I am sure that security organizations responsible for safeguarding places in Washington DC, like the White House and Capitol Building complex are having nightmares right now.

Some bozo buzzing National Airport with a low end consumer drone for lol’s is going to find out that security agency responses have gone up a whole bunch of notches.

And that goes for any US or other nation’s building or vehicle anywhere in the world. No need for warplanes. A swarm of a few hundred or thousand cheap drones will overwhelm any current defense at a fraction of the cost.

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Dangerman  Jan 29, 2023 • 7:17:16am

re: #127 Crush White Nationalism

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Why are having toxins in their homes and wasting electricity cherished right-wing authoritarian values? Your whole subculture is crazy.

Carbon monoxide. Odorless colorless. Therefore doesnt exist
Viruses. Microscopic. cant see em. Don’t exist
Anything that takes time to affect your health so that daily changes are imperceptible… Nicotine, tar, cholesterol, alcohol, etc do not exist.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 29, 2023 • 7:18:52am

Good morning! Got teh birbie.

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Joe Bacon  Jan 29, 2023 • 7:23:19am

Oh my!

Chuck U actually challenged Gym Neighbors.

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Dangerman  Jan 29, 2023 • 7:24:05am

And???????

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darthstar  Jan 29, 2023 • 7:25:19am

re: #141 Dangerman

Wow. Ronna was right for once? Kari Lake was a terrible candidate.

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Teukka  Jan 29, 2023 • 7:25:42am

re: #138 Dangerman

Carbon monoxide. Odorless colorless. Therefore doesnt exist
Viruses. Microscopic. cant see em. Don’t exist
Anything that takes time to affect your health so that daily changes are imperceptible… Nicotine, tar, cholesterol, alcohol, etc do not exist.

Also, flammable (if you didn’t mean CO2 of course). Wait until they realize that power optimization has been a thing on CPU’s for quite some time now (basically, dumps less heat into the heatsink)…

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Joe Bacon  Jan 29, 2023 • 7:27:29am

re: #141 Dangerman

If KKKrazy KKKari really believes she is Gawd’s Anointed Queen over Arizona why hasn’t she submitted appointments to the State Senate?

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Dangerman  Jan 29, 2023 • 7:29:38am

re: #143 Teukka

Also, flammable (if you didn’t mean CO2 of course). Wait until they realize that power optimization has been a thing on CPU’s for quite some time now (basically, dumps less heat into the heatsink)…

None of them use their car’s eco mode, right?

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Dangerman  Jan 29, 2023 • 7:32:26am
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Thanos  Jan 29, 2023 • 7:32:40am

Posting some vids from DOE with some efforts you might not be aware of.

How Does a Nuclear Thermal Propulsion Rocket Work?

ooops that’s NASA, however NASA and DARPA are working on this.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 29, 2023 • 7:33:21am

re: #128 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

I’m waiting for the nuts to start advocating potlatch as a way to own the libs.

People were buying Beatles records just to be able to burn them.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 29, 2023 • 7:35:46am

re: #140 Joe Bacon

Fmr. Pres. Trump did not comply with National Archives requests for 18 months before the FBI searched his home for classified docs.

Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio): “They raided Trump’s home; they haven’t raid Biden’s home.”

ChuckTodd: “Because Biden didn’t defy a subpoena.”

The GOP knows that nuance and context are no longer anything to worry about in the poo-flinging match that now comprises our national political discourse.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 29, 2023 • 7:36:33am

Mastodon

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darthstar  Jan 29, 2023 • 7:38:37am

re: #140 Joe Bacon

Oh my!

Chuck U actually challenged Gym Neighbors.

Biden never had to be subpoenaed.

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Thanos  Jan 29, 2023 • 7:42:05am

Office of Nuclear Energy

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Thanos  Jan 29, 2023 • 7:43:28am

The Solar Energy Path to 2030

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 29, 2023 • 7:44:33am

re: #153 Thanos

as a transitional measure, I don’t mind leaving some of the existing ones running, until we can move on to fusion

“secure and sustained”…”accident-tolerant fuels”…fuck that shit.

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Thanos  Jan 29, 2023 • 7:46:58am

re: #155 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

as a transitional measure, I don’t mind leaving the ones running, but we can transit to fusion

“secure and sustained”…”accident-tolerant fuels”…fuck that shit.

I can show you an actual *annual* body count for every form of power we use, can you show me an actual annual body count for existing nuclear energy?

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jan 29, 2023 • 7:49:53am

re: #126 ckkatz

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Bingo, on the inside Iran part anyway. It can happen here. This could well be the kind of reprisal you will see after a localized breakdown of the rule of law, for example, if deputized fascist vigilantes launch some kind of pogrom against some of their numerous hate targets.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 29, 2023 • 7:56:15am

re: #156 Thanos

I can show you an actual *annual* body count for every form of power we use, can you show me an actual annual body count for existing nuclear energy?

Directly not many, Fukushima lists 573 and Chernobly only around 50. Indirectly tens of thousands (the “liquidators” at Chernobyl, Uranium miners and people living downstream from tailings on the Navajo reservation, etc.)

My problem with nuclear energy is the false economy: insurance rates are indirectly subsidized by liability caps. ($500 million in the USA, $1.5 billion in Europe).

Chernobyl was estimated to have cost $20 billion and Fukushima around $80 billion. If nuclear plants had to insure themselves for those amounts, their rates would most likely make nuclear energy prohibitively expensive.

And as for the costs of disposal and safe storage, that bill is going to be paid by generations and generations to come.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 29, 2023 • 7:56:44am

re: #136 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

I love mine as well. It’s great when I want to make up a personal batch of Deviled Eggs.

I’ve been making more egg salad for sandwiches lately since it is so easy to hard boil 4 - 5 eggs for it. And I really like that bowl I used this morning to make the egg patties for sandwiches. I used to use a ring in a pan to do that, but this is so much easier.

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ckkatz  Jan 29, 2023 • 7:57:42am

I do not know enough to judge this particular article. But the far right hate for the IRS has been around since it was created.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 29, 2023 • 7:59:18am

re: #160 ckkatz

I do not know enough to judge this particular article. But the far right hate for the IRS has been around since it was created.

We have gone from “taxation without representation is tyranny” directly to “taxation is tyranny”.

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Dangerman  Jan 29, 2023 • 8:01:01am

re: #152 darthstar

Biden never had to be subpoenaed.

Oh ffs
He told the govt his lawyers found the dox
He requested the searches

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 29, 2023 • 8:06:56am

re: #162 Dangerman

Oh ffs
He told the govt his lawyers found the dox
He requested the searches

regardless, DT gets another Get Out of Jail Free card.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jan 29, 2023 • 8:07:08am

re: #148 Thanos

Posting some vids from DOE with some efforts you might not be aware of.

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ooops that’s NASA, however NASA and DARPA are working on this.

NERVA (nuclear engine for rocket vehicle application) was a huge program in the 1950s and 60s and was successfully tested at Jackass Flats, Nevada way back in 1964.
Planned applications included the Mars landing that NASA proposed as a follow on to Project Apollo, with NERVA initially replacing the third stage of the Saturn V launch vehicle. This was canceled, of course, by the Nixon administration. One relatively small aspect, a re-usable shuttle to ferry astronauts and material to an orbital assembly site, was continued. This was dubiously re-branded as a primary launch system and remained the US’s primary, indeed only, manned spacecraft system for over 30 years.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 29, 2023 • 8:08:20am
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darthstar  Jan 29, 2023 • 8:08:42am

re: #132 Patricia Kayden

Mastodon

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 29, 2023 • 8:10:03am

re: #165 Eclectic Cyborg

Storming the Capitol is the same as getting pulled over for a traffic stop…got it.

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darthstar  Jan 29, 2023 • 8:11:54am

re: #165 Eclectic Cyborg

I put Ron Filipowski on mute when I was on Twitter because he serves as a conduit for stupid shit like what D’Souza says there. Is “The Republican Party” supposed to serve as some kind of profound statement? No. Ron’s just a clickwhore who will rebroadcast the most offensive shit he can find to keep his engagement rate high. And he’s not the only one…there are plenty of others who have learned how to monetize that pathetic practice better than he has.

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sagehen  Jan 29, 2023 • 8:18:07am

re: #156 Thanos

I can show you an actual *annual* body count for every form of power we use, can you show me an actual annual body count for existing nuclear energy?

The Chernobyl and Fukushima body counts (and mutations) are happening in slow motion. It will be generations before we know.

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ckkatz  Jan 29, 2023 • 8:20:58am
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 29, 2023 • 8:21:45am

re: #98 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

PlayStation had had this since at least the PS3 (PS5 in the most current) pretty sure my PS2 didn’t have threat feature since it was a CD-ROM only system.

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Teukka  Jan 29, 2023 • 8:26:02am
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Teukka  Jan 29, 2023 • 8:26:35am

re: #169 sagehen

The Chernobyl and Fukushima body counts (and mutations) are happening in slow motion. It will be generations before we know.

re: #158 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Directly not many, Fukushima lists 573 and Chernobly only around 50. Indirectly tens of thousands (the “liquidators” at Chernobyl, Uranium miners and people living downstream from tailings on the Navajo reservation, etc.)

My problem with nuclear energy is the false economy: insurance rates are indirectly subsidized by liability caps. ($500 million in the USA, $1.5 billion in Europe).

Chernobyl was estimated to have cost $20 billion and Fukushima around $80 billion. If nuclear plants had to insure themselves for those amounts, their rates would most likely make nuclear energy prohibitively expensive.

And as for the costs of disposal and safe storage, that bill is going to be paid by generations and generations to come.

Nuclear is one of the safer forms of power generation, albeit not renewable. You do have the proliferation and waste storage issue though, as well as cost-cutting and bypassing safeguards issue (like, many accidents begin with that).
Fossils do have the issue of air pollution and contribution to climate change, which you do have to factor in if you are to do a body count.

Although I’m no big fan of fission power, it irks me to no end when people begin fearmongering. As I see it, we do need a stopgap measure until cleaner sources of power become available for use, and with how things are going, fission power seems to be it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 29, 2023 • 8:29:19am

re: #173 Teukka

Although I’m no big fan of fission power, it irks me to no end when people begin fearmongering. As I see it, we do need a stopgap measure until cleaner sources of power become available for use, and with how things are going, fission power seems to be it.

I do not fearmonger, my objections to it are 90% economic. But I nonetheless see it as an acceptable stopgap until our technology advances enough that we can dispense with it for good.

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Teukka  Jan 29, 2023 • 8:31:17am

re: #174 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I do not fearmonger, my objections to it are 90% economic. But I nonetheless see it as an acceptable stopgap until our technology advances enough that we can dispense with it for good.

Yep. Also, well-developed grid storage should be a builtin feature of such technology, because it does make intermittent power sources (e.g. wind, solar, tidal) more sustainable.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 29, 2023 • 8:31:22am

NY Times has stopped “Bothsidesing.” I wonder why.

Contains this little gem regarding the Holocaust Memorial Day shootings: It’s OK to kill Jews if they are living in the wrong neighborhood.

The recent Palestinian attacks, including Friday night’s shooting outside a synagogue and Saturday’s shooting, have targeted Israeli settlements and settlers in East Jerusalem and the West Bank.

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Dangerman  Jan 29, 2023 • 8:32:55am

re: #169 sagehen

The Chernobyl and Fukushima body counts (and mutations) are happening in slow motion. It will be generations before we know.

re: #138 Dangerman

Anything that takes time to affect your health so that daily changes are imperceptible… Nicotine, tar, cholesterol, alcohol, etc do not exist.

radiation

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Belafon  Jan 29, 2023 • 8:34:17am

re: #170 ckkatz

Why isn’t that a movie?

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 29, 2023 • 8:36:08am

re: #177 Dangerman

radiation

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jan 29, 2023 • 8:38:02am

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sagehen  Jan 29, 2023 • 8:40:15am

Somebody in Portland said that, about the George Floyd protests.

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William Lewis  Jan 29, 2023 • 8:40:25am

re: #113 TarHellion

Made another good second guess today to get into birbie range. Just gonna chill around the house and tune in to the CTE Conference title games. Gonna go with Kansas City and Philly. The Chefs are due to beat Burrow, while Philly should be able to do some things on defense to make Purdy’s day ugly. A great day/evening to all the Lizards!

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SF (only because I want to see a rookie & a “Mr. Irrelevant” in the Superb Owl) & I don’t think Mahomes will get past his ankle issues enough to handle the Bengals.

Unfortunately for the Bengals, if they get there, either Philly or SF will put them in the 0-4 Club with the Bills & Vikings.

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William Lewis  Jan 29, 2023 • 8:46:49am

re: #148 Thanos

Posting some vids from DOE with some efforts you might not be aware of.

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Video

ooops that’s NASA, however NASA and DARPA are working on this.

Heinlein used to write these in the 50’s using zinc (i) as his reaction mass. Much more mass for volume - still higher thrust and all the other advantages from that video. OTOH, he glossed over the need to keep the propellent heated so that it was melted and would flow into the reactor for heating as reaction mass.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 29, 2023 • 8:51:39am

re: #161 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We have gone from “taxation without representation is tyranny” directly to “taxation is tyranny”.

A desire right-whingers to return to the pure market economy of the early 20th century where everything was good.

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Belafon  Jan 29, 2023 • 9:02:10am

There are 3,240 high schools in Texas.

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William Lewis  Jan 29, 2023 • 9:05:57am

Lets see… hashbrowns, scrambled eggs, sausage links, & toast with home made elderberry jelly. Nummy!

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Joe Bacon  Jan 29, 2023 • 9:12:58am

re: #161 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We have gone from “taxation without representation is tyranny” directly to “taxation is tyranny”.

Oh that is what the Young Libertarian Alliance at Pitt was saying back in the 70s and it was only reinforced by the disciples of Murray Rothbard’s Anarcho-Capitalists in the Pitt Economics Department.

I remember having “Socratic dialogues” with YLA members in the 1970s and I replied that they were living in their “Laissez Fairyland” which is so nice in theory but totally unworkable in real life.

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darthstar  Jan 29, 2023 • 9:14:45am

Mastodon

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darthstar  Jan 29, 2023 • 9:15:44am

re: #185 Belafon

There are 3,240 high schools in Texas.

So that’s how they reached an average 6th grade reading level.
//

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No Malarkey!  Jan 29, 2023 • 9:19:19am

re: #2 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

ACLU Defends Nazis’ Right To Burn Down ACLU Headquarters (The Onion, October 14, 2003)

(more)

While I don’t always agree with the ACLU, I appreciate their absolute commitment to defense of the First Amendment. With their attorneys at the outer ramparts, all our first amendment rights are being protected

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darthstar  Jan 29, 2023 • 9:20:11am

I was listening to MSNBC on my dog walk and Jonathan Capehart had some female pundit - Olivia I think…maybe Troye? - anyway, they were talking about McCarthy and his newfound expression of loyalty to MTG and how she’s become the power broker of the Republican party.

Then Capehart mentions MTG gunning for Trump’s VP role and Olivia says Marjorie isn’t pretty enough to be Trump’s running mate…then she says it pains her as a woman to say it, but the fact is Trump’s too shallow a person and Marjorie just doesn’t have the looks.

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Belafon  Jan 29, 2023 • 9:24:32am
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Belafon  Jan 29, 2023 • 9:26:35am

Interesting that the values add to 100%

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jan 29, 2023 • 9:28:28am

re: #186 William Lewis

Lets see… hashbrowns, scrambled eggs, sausage links, & toast with home made elderberry jelly. Nummy!

OOPS! Forgot the description. Chopped steak w/ Sausage gravy, Eggs over medium with medium cheddar and Salsa and Potatoes O’Brien.

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Belafon  Jan 29, 2023 • 9:30:09am

Thread:

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 29, 2023 • 9:35:40am

re: #95 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Three months after the election, Kari Lake is still pretending she is governor of Arizona.

She’s also taking her soft face filters on the road.

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Good for Ronna McDaniel. Is that the only decent thing she’s done since the 2020 election?

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A Cranky One  Jan 29, 2023 • 9:38:01am

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Belafon  Jan 29, 2023 • 9:42:20am

fucculent.com

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jan 29, 2023 • 9:47:54am

re: #185 Belafon

There are 3,240 high schools in Texas.

Two of them got a minor blow of the axe (1 game suspension) over a fight that broke out during a recent game.
UIL committee suspends Lorenzo and Crosbyton teams after game ends in fight

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sagehen  Jan 29, 2023 • 9:54:20am

re: #195 Belafon

Thread:

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Authoritarian Oligarchic ex-Communists Unite!!

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John Hughes  Jan 29, 2023 • 9:55:22am

re: #102 Dopamine Fish

I’m assuming that they’re changing the low power setting to be the default, and that’s what the outrage is about..

And none of these geniuses know how to change the default setting (even if, as the tuber points out, they noticed).

Ted Cruz has an Xbox. Yeah, I believe that.

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Belafon  Jan 29, 2023 • 9:56:34am

SNL did a good job skewering the insurance commercials, and pulled off the right amount of creepy:

Jake from State Farm - SNL

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 29, 2023 • 9:58:31am

re: #113 TarHellion

Made another good second guess today to get into birbie range. Just gonna chill around the house and tune in to the CTE Conference title games. Gonna go with Kansas City and Philly. The Chefs are due to beat Burrow, while Philly should be able to do some things on defense to make Purdy’s day ugly. A great day/evening to all the Lizards!

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A 5 for me..

Click to Reveal

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TarHellion  Jan 29, 2023 • 9:58:52am

re: #186 William Lewis

Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 29, 2023 • 10:02:46am

re: #175 Teukka

Yep. Also, well-developed grid storage should be a builtin feature of such technology, because it does make intermittent power sources (e.g. wind, solar, tidal) more sustainable.

at peak times, wind turbines can just charge compressed air cylinders to tap into when there is not enough wind around

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 29, 2023 • 10:03:40am

re: #184 Colère Tueur de Lapin

A desire right-whingers to return to the pure market economy of the early 20th century where everything was good.

and the only taxes were the ones on alcohol and tobacco

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 29, 2023 • 10:05:04am

re: #187 Joe Bacon

Oh that is what the Young Libertarian Alliance at Pitt was saying back in the 70s and it was only reinforced by the disciples of Murray Rothbard’s Anarcho-Capitalists in the Pitt Economics Department.

I remember having “Socratic dialogues” with YLA members in the 1970s and I replied that they were living in their “Laissez Fairyland” which is so nice in theory but totally unworkable in real life.

Back the late 70’s in Bloomington, Indiana, I was a housemate with a full-on Rothbard/Ayn Rand Libertarian. Had great taste in music, though. Have not heard or from him since, I hope he has found a happy place far from the daily grind of the grid.

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Captain Ron  Jan 29, 2023 • 10:07:47am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 29, 2023 • 10:09:20am

re: #208 Captain Ron

Rather that GeeGee leaned so far left that he came back around Right - like with Putinverstehers or enemies of “International Capital” or anti-vaxers

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Joe Bacon  Jan 29, 2023 • 10:09:33am

re: #207 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I was a housemate with a full-on Rothbard/Any Rand Libertarian. Had great taste in music, though. Have not heard or from him since, I hope he has found a happy place far from the daily grind of the grid.

One of my high school classmates went full throttle Rothbard. Wound up as a pot smoking attorney in Colorado who defends anti-taxers and he didn’t stop there. He’s a birther who tried to disqualify Obama from being on the Colorado ballot insisting Obama was born in Kenya.

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Joe Bacon  Jan 29, 2023 • 10:10:29am

re: #206 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and the only taxes were the ones on alcohol and tobacco

Oh don’t forget about the high tariffs!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 29, 2023 • 10:11:30am

re: #211 Joe Bacon

Oh don’t forget about the high tariffs!

That was pre-globalism.

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John Hughes  Jan 29, 2023 • 10:17:10am

re: #109 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

I’m sorry my state hasn’t been able to oust this walking hemorrhoid, and frankly probably never will.

maybe it’s time to talk about preparation-H.

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John Hughes  Jan 29, 2023 • 10:20:48am

re: #116 Patricia Kayden

“He’s like the asshole kid that nobody likes”

He keeps winning elections so he is liked. Liked enough to be re-elected every time he runs.

Not liked. Just (R).

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Joe Bacon  Jan 29, 2023 • 10:25:19am

re: #214 John Hughes

Not liked. Just (R).

Yes. (R) as in Racist…the same way Ron Johnson got back in the Senate.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 29, 2023 • 10:31:39am

re: #142 darthstar

Wow. Ronna was right for once? Kari Lake was a terrible candidate.

The real outrage is how close the election was and the number of voters who support these terrible candidates.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 29, 2023 • 10:37:22am

re: #216 Hecuba’s daughter

The real outrage is how close the election was and the number of voters who support these teRible candidates.

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ckkatz  Jan 29, 2023 • 10:38:08am
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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 29, 2023 • 10:39:27am

re: #161 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We have gone from “taxation without representation is tyranny” directly to “taxation is tyranny”.

It’s just “taxation of the wealthy” is tyranny. They don’t care about taxes that target the working classes and middle classes.

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John Hughes  Jan 29, 2023 • 10:39:50am

re: #143 Teukka

Wait until they realize that power optimization has been a thing on CPU’s for quite some time now (basically, dumps less heat into the heatsink)…

Yeah, I remember when I first demonstrated that an idle machine used less electricity than one running

perl -e ‘for(;;) <{++$i}’

(On a ups that showed the load).

It was somewhere around the early 2000s

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ckkatz  Jan 29, 2023 • 10:40:09am

re: #218 ckkatz

Which reminds me.

Recently a friend asked me with what nation does France share its longest border. I did not get it correct.

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William Lewis  Jan 29, 2023 • 10:45:54am

re: #221 ckkatz

Which reminds me.

Recently a friend asked me with what nation does France share its longest border. I did not get it correct.

Brazil… ;)

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John Hughes  Jan 29, 2023 • 10:49:28am

re: #148 Thanos

NERVA

First ideas came from BIS, so must be good, later taken up as pork by two republican senators (one of whom represented Nevada — if being nuked is good for us it’s good for you).

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John Hughes  Jan 29, 2023 • 10:52:51am

re: #149 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

People were buying Beatles records just to be able to burn them.

Disco Demolition Night.

Better:

The Trammps - Disco Inferno (Original Long Version - Tony Mendes Video Re Edit)

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 29, 2023 • 11:06:24am
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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 29, 2023 • 11:07:25am

re: #221 ckkatz

Which reminds me.

Recently a friend asked me with what nation does France share its longest border. I did not get it correct.

Not sure if it is Spain or Belgium.

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John Hughes  Jan 29, 2023 • 11:24:55am

re: #126 ckkatz

The Saudi al-Hadath channel reports that the attack tonight in Isfahan province, Iran, was an operation by the US and another country other than Israel, and it was aimed at an Iranian ballistic missile depot

So a Saudi news channel says it was a joint operation between the US and “another country other than Israel”.

Gosh, some totally trust inspiring reporting there.

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John Hughes  Jan 29, 2023 • 11:45:49am

re: #158 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Directly not many, Fukushima lists 573

I have never seen a source with such high numbers. Where do you get that?

Chernobyl was estimated to have cost $20 billion and Fukushima around $80 billion. If nuclear plants had to insure themselves for those amounts, their rates would most likely make nuclear energy prohibitively expensive.

The US lost 165.1 billion USD in probably GW related climate disasters in 2022. Who has insurance to pay for that.

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John Hughes  Jan 29, 2023 • 11:51:44am

re: #169 sagehen

The Chernobyl and Fukushima body counts (and mutations) are happening in slow motion. It will be generations before we know.

Yeah, it’s a good thing nobody ever decided to explode hundreds of nuclear weapons in the open atmosphere, if they did New Los Vegas would be full of mutants.

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wrenchwench  Jan 29, 2023 • 11:56:17am

re: #229 John Hughes

Yeah, it’s a good thing nobody ever decided to explode hundreds of nuclear weapons in the open atmosphere, if they did New Los Vegas would be full of mutants.

I’m not sure I could tell the difference.

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John Hughes  Jan 29, 2023 • 12:02:55pm

re: #174 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I do not fearmonger, my objections to it are 90% economic. But I nonetheless see it as an acceptable stopgap until our technology advances enough that we can dispense with it for good.

Yes, but your economics is bollocks.

You complain that nuclear doesn’t have the insurance to cover the approx one hundred billion loss from Tchernobyl and Fukushima but don’t wonder how fossils can pay for the one hundred and sixty five billion loss for one country in one year.

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Thanos  Jan 30, 2023 • 4:33:32am

re: #169 sagehen

The Chernobyl and Fukushima body counts (and mutations) are happening in slow motion. It will be generations before we know.

But they are still less than the tens of thousands that die annually due to fossil fuels. The average world wide death for just coal was ~ 40K last time I checked, cancer deaths caused by transport diesel? Way more than any nuclear count you can come up with.

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Thanos  Jan 30, 2023 • 4:36:54am

re: #228 John Hughes

I have never seen a source with such high numbers. Where do you get that?

The US lost 165.1 billion USD in probably GW related climate disasters in 2022. Who has insurance to pay for that.

and let’s not forget all those refinery fires, those broken wells spewing pollutants into the Gulf, the aftermath of Gulf war 1 when Sadaam lit all those wells on fire, the almost daily spillage by pipelines and trucking, the coal slurry in streams, I can go on and on and on.


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